A short exchange between myself and a couple of other very cool, very loyal and very faithful Sedevacantists, in my immediate circle of very good friends, prompted this post, which, as you will see from my replies is, as usual, brutally direct. The difference being only that most (some?) of my close friends recognise that my brutality and directness are almost entirely non-personal. And I expect my close friends to know this. This particular interlocutor absolutely does, and his similarly autistically direct replies are refreshing for both clarity (if not of thought, at least of transparently exposing the process) and intent (good).
The conversation started with the death of the arch-heretic, probably never was Catholic, Satanic fake Pope Bergoglio.
Sede man 1
On a serious note, it wouldn’t hurt to give a prayer for him. At least asking for the Justice and Mercy of God to be executed.
Kurgan
You’re a better man than I. I’ll say a prayer for an honest enemy. Not for a servant of Satan and pedophile protector.
Sede man 2 (with thumbs up from Sede man 3)
You should though
Kurgan
That’s your opinion, to which you are entitled.
HOWEVER
Have you asked yourself how on Earth we went from the most numerous religion on Earth, with the best system of society ever invented by anyone human, producing the best societies humanity has ever seen in all fields, to a rearguard action of scattered Sedevacantists?
My contention is that is was through an overabundance of misplaced charity.
And it begins precisely like this:
A very thin wedge of compassion towards the most vile forms of scum.
“Oh say a prayer for the poor evil man that colluded with his Argentinian lover to have hundreds if not thousands or tens of thousands of little lids raped, sold and murdered. It’s the right Catholic thing to do!”
And then it morphs from the above into tolerating all sorts of other nonsense.
So allow me to present my view:
1. Not even God forgives the unrepentant
2. There is ZERO evidence this pedophile promoter ever repented of anything and he was directly responsible for covering for pedos and enabling child rape by fake “priest” for decades.
3. Who am I to assume he ever repented, and if he did not, try to be more charitable than God?!?! How is that not an absurd error of pride?!
4. If he DID miraculously repent before croaking God knows it and doesn’t need my help.
5. If he did not he absolutely deserves his fate in hell.
6. Points 3-5 are in any case personal and irrelevant because cum ex apostolato officio clearly states heretics should be deprived of EVERY HUMAN CHARITY! So technically it is you who is in error.
7. I will pray though. That all unrepentant pedos and pedo enablers burn in Hell.
Kurgan sermon over.
Sede man 2
Yes, but it’s not “misplaced” charity. You know as well as I do that praying for his soul in no ways needs to entail condoning any of his evil, heretical and downright satanic actions. The point is to look for the good of his soul despite all of that.
Our Lord Himself prayed for literal God-killers as they were crying out for His blood and nailing Him to a cross.
The only prayer to make is not that God’s justice not be done, nor that He not be punished (we pray, hope and know that justice will be done (thank God)), but at the same time we can pray that maybe, just maybe, for a glimmer of a moment before the end, the heart of this horrendous human being may have made the right decision
Sede man 2 (continued)
Prayers for petition are not about making God change His mind, or about knowing things that He knows. Gods decisions are already made. Instead, ultimately, they are about aligning our wills with His.
God wants/wanted this man to repent. And so, let’s pray that He did.
And if he didn’t, he will go to hell, where he belongs.
Sede man 2 (continued)
Deprived of human charity… not divine charity.
Kurgan
I’m human. Not a or even the God.
Kurgan (continued)
And even if one accepts your arguments at face value (I don’t. The logic is terrible) it remains at best a waste of time.
Suppose he did repent, since you have NO WAY at all of knowing, you’re guessing, so already in breach of your duty as a Catholic to remove all human charity from what we can only treat as an arch-heretic given we need to judge him based on his actions and deeds, which have without exception marked him as such.
And if he is not repentant then what are you actually doing? Why not pray for Satan as well then?
Lastly, and again, if not even God has mercy on the unrepentant, why are you trying to?
Your prayer is entirely pointless regardless of the situation AT BEST. And potentially a sin of pride and disobeying Catholic dogma.
What point is there to such a prayer other than self-glorification as being a “really good Catholic” who then can tell other Catholics like me what they “should” be doing to be more pious?
Because your prayer cannot change anything, has zero effect on whatever the situation is, which is in all cases beyond your knowledge or personal power to affect either way precisely because of the circumstance of Bergoglio being a heretic. It’s worse than praying for someone being burnt at the stake, at least they have a possible reason for possible repentance. Bergoglio, in the external forum on which we as humans must necessarily judge him, had none.
In conclusion
My view here is very simple: you want to make this dubious and possibly erroneous and prideful prayer, go ahead. In silence between you and God. But telling others to is, as far as I am concerned, akin to telling them they should accept millions of “refugees” because some may be good people. In fact this hypothetical has more logical merit.
And it is, above all, a further very subtle, and for that reason, very dangerous, infiltration of an overabundance of false piety and false humility that leads to an error of both pride AND tolerance.
It is why we no longer have people willing to skewer heretics and enemies of the church on a sword. And as far as I can tell, nothing will rebuild the church without not only such men, but also such actions.
Anyway, that’s my take and absent God changing my mind, it will remain as is.
And that is the little Sede vs Sede “violence” done with.
But as a larger theme, it needs to be understood and remembered above all that:
- Evil is most dangerous and effective in its most subtle form, because it is insidious and unnoticed. The danger is not from the heretic blue-haired feminist that shouts 2+2 is 5. Or that Bruce Jenner is a woman. That’s just retarded and obviously wrong and false. The danger is from someone posing as a math professor that sometimes, at a Lunar minimum, when it falls on a conjunction with Jupiter, 2+2 can be equal to 4.000000000000000001. That is the evil that will seep in, and in time, ensure the bridges you build fall down in a stiff wind with “no one to blame because how could anyone know the root cause if such a mystery” because by then math will be akin to an esoteric art performed only by strange men who are obviously right wing radicals.
- No evil regime that uses lies, deception and force was ever changed or removed other than by force.
- Absent men willing to defend, fight and if need be die for the faith, but above all willing to build communities of faithful Catholics, the remnants of the Church will atrophy too.
So govern yourself accordingly.
This post was originally published on my Substack. Link here
