Adam gets it wrong once again. I like Adam, I consider him a friend and he certainly has behaved like one. However, one must remember, he is still an Australian, and as such from faulty genetic stock. Particularly when it comes to things like, well, you know… following the law!
On his thoughts on Vigano he goes on to say that he does not dismiss the man, despite Vigano’s cowardly silence on Vatican II and his still not having specifically called out all the fake Popes since 1958 as fake Popes for over 50 years, and he says this is because:
If I were to do that then I should also dismiss the apostle Paul, who actively persecuted Christians until his meeting with Christ on the road to Damascus. And if Paul then many others also over the vast pages of human history.
No Adam. No, no, no, no!
Paul was NOT a Catholic when he was persecuting Christians. He was a Jew. You can call him a heathen if you prefer, even a Pagan. But the whole point is he was NOT a Catholic, nor pretending to be one.
So, when he repented and became one, whatever sins he had, including presumably multiple counts of murder, the one thing he could not be accused of is heresy.
The difference is Vigano absolutely is a heretic. And has been and acted like one in absolutely full knowledge of the fact.
While this does not forbid him from genuine repentance, and thus, eventual entry into heaven, it absolutely does prevent him from ever again having any legitimate clerical authority over absolutely anyone. And that, is not only logical, but divine law as far as the Church is concerned.
Might God still use him to in some way partially, or even totally to (eventually) reclaim the Catholic Church back from the pedophile infested, homosexual orgy indulging impostors currently squatting in the Vatican? Sure. God certainly loves to use broken tools.
But does it change the fact that Vigano, in the very best of cases, by dogmatic rule of Canon Law can only aspire to a lifetime of penance with authority over no one? No. It does not.
And this sort of “charitable” wishy-washy, mealy-mouthed, trying to see the best in people nonsense is how a freemasonic scum like Roncalli and a demonic infested Montini almost succeeded in destroying the Catholic Church, and certainly dealt it one of the worst blows of its 2000 year history.
So, no. Correct yourself friend.
Sure, the Vigano situation can be used to the advantage of the Church and it should be, but let us not let heretics avoid their just punishments.
Of course, I don’t begrudge Adam his sentiments or his prayers, which are all entirely appropriate, but let us not confuse what a heretic is nor what an ex-heretic may do or not do.
Lastly, it is also a logical flaw to expect that the only way the Church can heal is by the actions of the perverts, cowards and satanists within its buildings currently pretending to be Catholic. One might as well say the Satanic pedophiles in charge of the deep state are the only hope we have for eventually getting a good government.
The fact that this is not resulting in every able bodied male German to drag the entire judiciary, government, and lawyers involved in making the laws of that country into the street and executing them in public, alongside the rapists, before deporting every single foreigner within a week, is, I think, a clear sign that the Davos crowd has in essence won the fight to erase Europe. At least as far as Germany is concerned for sure.
Can you even imagine such a situation applying in Saudi Arabia, or the Congo, or even Japan and there not being any kind of public and immediate pushback on a level that would be impossible to ignore?
Then again, the Israelis are murdering children by the thousands and apparently also trafficking in their organs and no one is saying anything about that in the mass media either. But to suggest that the mass media is almost entirely owned by Jews is, of course, labelled as an antisemitic conspiracy theory.
And of course, the European puppets continue to dance to the tune they are told to.
These are not isolated and unique incidents either.
It certainly looks as if things will go darker still in the near future. Whether there is a light after at all remains to be seen.
For those of you that don’t speak Italian, here is a summarised version that I perfectly share and agree with, as I hope was already evident from my previous post on it a short while ago.
Don Ricossa states that [items in bold and square brackets are my notes]:
Vigano in his response to the request he presents himself in Rome to answer for his supposed crime of schism, and therefore, ultimately heresy, stated he refuses to present himself in Rome since he does not recognise the legitimacy of the current occupier of the See of Rome and wants nothing to do with it, nor to remain in communion with it since he describes the current Bergoglian hierarchy as the final metastasis of the cancer that is Vatican II.
Don Ricossa started out by saying that although he does not usually like to discuss current events, since there is such a need of understanding the gospels at present, the present situation that everyone is talking about concerning Vigano is an excellent opportunity to possibly begin to heal the Church, if it is considered and acted upon fruitfully. He goes on to explain how and why as follows:
In the first place, while it is true that the current situation is terrible, it is important to note that this is merely an effect of the cause and not the cause itself. In short, while it is true that the cancer is bad, the problem started at the origin of the cancer and that is Vatican II. And this being the case, the focus should absolutely be on explaining and detailing the exact issues with Vatican II. This has already been done in various ways by various people [including by me —-in what I believe in the most exhaustive way I am aware of—- in Reclaiming The Catholic Church, where I list at least some of the heresies present in all 15 of the 16 documents that compose Vatican II that have direct heresy in them] and Father Ricossa mentions that one can bring to the attention of everyone (including Vigano) these arguments, and their already detailed and well presented points. Or one can expand on them or even start them anew and as thoroughly as one likes [As far as I am aware a complete listing of all the heresies of the Vatican II documents has not been done for there are so many, but I believe my version is the one that so far comes closest.]
Further, once you do this, it become obvious that the problem is not just the current impostor on the throne of Peter, but also all those from the very start of Vatican II who have continued to promulgate, promote and agree with Vatican II. [In short, here, Don Ricossa states simply the same thing I have been telling everyone from 2017 on, which is that every single fake Pope from Angelo Roncalli on, and all the Novus Orco clergy are invalid and as such heretics and non-Catholics. Nor is anything they teach related to Catholicism, but rather, its inversion.] Don Ricossa therefore clearly implied that this situation, that is, that Vigano has not yet explicitly stated this, needs to be corrected.
He goes on that, in order to be coherent, Vigano can only refuse the order to come to Rome, as well as refuse to recognise Bergoglio’s authority if he truly believes Bergoglio is not a legitimate Pope AND he can demonstrate too that this is the case (because Catholics follow the rules, not their feelings about what they think of particular cotta). And once again, this leads back to Vatican II and how it is indeed possible (and the case) that only fake “Popes” has been present in the Vatican since 28th October 1958. Otherwise, failing to obey a legitimate Pope is indeed schism and this can only eventually become heresy.
Don Ricossa goes on to say that therefore, it is absolutely necessary to explain, formally, and clarify:
Why the current occupier of the Vatican is not a valid Pope.
And also to clarify Vigano’s position on the matter, [that is of not formally and clearly declaring all the previous fake “Popes” and all previous and current fake “clergy” as the fakes they are] this removing for is the current doubt we have about what is Vigano’s real thoughts on the matter.]
He goes on to say that he has never had any communication with Vigano, so it is not a matter of the person of Vigano as such, but rather that while Vigano has expressed an opinion that Don Ricossa agrees with (i.e. that the Novus Ordo Church is a fake mess) Vigano needs to follow through, for the sake of clarity and the truth of it for all concerned, from Bergoglio and his retinue to you and I mere laymen.
He goes on to say that his suggestion (though he points out no one asked him) to Mr. Vigano, is to hold fast to his position, focusing on the validity (or rather, lack of validity) of Bergoglio’s election as a “Pope”. He also explains that nowadays a lot of people (unlike before when we were the only ones stating the seat of Peter was vacant) are claiming it is vacant with reference to Ratzinger having been the real Pope. And Don Ricossa here states he will not enter into the various theories and details that such “sedevacantists” hold, because it is not our problem/issue to do so, since the reality is that none of rhe Popes from Roncalli on have been legitimate. He specifies that NO ONE who has accepted the so-called cancer of Vatican II can ever be the legitimate authority of the Church, (since Vatican II is heresy and the Church, being infallible, obviously cannot promulgate heresy) and so while Bergoglio is not legitimate, neither was Ratzinger.
It would be therefore a massive error to allow yourself to be fooled into this error that “Ratzinger was the real Pope” which so many are now trying or thinking of following [Hi Ann, Andrea Tossato, and others].
Instead, Vigano should hold to his position that regardless of whether you consider the election of any specific “Pope” to have been valid or not, it becomes clear that the incumbent has NOT accepted the election validly because it is clear from his actions, that are habitual, repetitive and obvious, that he has not
In summary, Vigano must clarify his position, because while it appears that Vigano is rejecting the current usurper of the Roman See, at other times one is left perplexed he says, because in the same document where he rejects Bergoglio, he also says he aligns himself with Msgr. LeFebrve, original position, but Msgr. LeFebrve at the time communicated with all the clergy while telling them they should rebel against the (according to Lefebrve) legitimate Pope [which is why the SSPX position is nonsense, as I and many before me, including Father Chekada before his passing made abundantly clear]. But Vigano says he rejects the authority of Bergoglio, so he cannot claim he aligns with LeFebrve’s position. If he rejects Bergoglio, and thus all of Vatican II he should say and detail how and why, and the same if he does not. And while the man also refers to a book by Lefebrve that defends the validity of the Pope he disobeys, one can only ask: what is then, the real opinion of Mr. Vigano? [Personally I have already expressed that Vigano is not anyone to follow or put any trust in, as per Canon Law. No heretic shall have ecclesiastical authority over anyone even if his repentance were 100% genuine, and Vigano is far from fulfilling the idea his repentance is in fact genuine as far as I am concerned].
He reiterates once more that Vigano should be clear as to if he does reject Bergoglio as legitimate or not, and he should say so in direct, simple terms, as well as why he does if he does. So as to be perfectly and unambiguously clear.
As a third and final point, once clarity has been made, and if Vigano in fact refutes Vatican II and all its authors and not just the current impostor in the Vatican, but all those before him [back to Pious XII who was the last legitimate Pope] since, as already explained the Church cannot schism from itself and therefore anyone who does so from it cannot be part of the Church, then what to do? And here he uses the example of Montini who while pretending to talk about the “ongoing destruction of the Church” he was the very one destroying it by the most assiduous enactment of the 14 Vatican II documents replete with heresies he himself produced, along with the 2 produced by his predecessor Roncalli, leat Vigano be another one of these impostors speaking from both sides of their mouth, or, as the errors of those at the time of Montini who kept silent, waiting for Montini to die and hoping a successor would come along to put right all the things Montini had destroyed. And instead he says this was an illusion, aince the successors of Montini only continued with the destruction of the Church. [I must interject a note here that while I respect Do Ricossa and the other members of the IMBC, I cannot, in good conscience be as charitable to those timid and cowardly bishops, cardinals and priests who kept silent at the time of Montini. Logically they had no excuse for their silence, as neither did Vigano for over 50 years. It is only cowardice and self-serving reasons that kept their mouth shut, or, at best, a criminal level of ignorance inexcusable from any member of the clergy, that in secular terms is equivalent to the charge of criminal negligence. Nor, am I wrong, nor can I be criticised on this matter given that St. Luis stated it very clearly that a heretic making a heretical comment in Church should not be argued with, but rather run through with a sword. If a Saint of the Church made that point, mine surely must be valid too. Furthermore, while in no way being disrespectful to the valid clergy of the Church which remain and of which Don Ricossa is undoubtedly a member, it is the absolute duty of any Catholic to call out heresy wherever it is present, and the level and extent of dereliction of duty in this regard, of the clergy at the time is one I will never permit to happen again, as best I can, as ling as I live.]
Vigano, therefore, inasmuch as he is supposedly a “bishop” (and Don Ricossa specifically states he is not now going to get into the details concerning the validity of Vigano’s legitimacy as such, because the point is that Vigano has a huge “weight” within the “Church” and as such he has the opportunity (unlike the e average layman or even priest) to gather around him as many people as he can with his same perspective, and thus, in essence, create a much more widespread acknowledgements of the situation, while being very clear about the errors of Vatican II and therefore NOT recognising the authority of ANY of those who promulgated them, and if he did so this, there could be many improvements and who knows, perhaps also a beginning of the solution to the current situation.
He closes stating of course all this needs the help and grace of God and his own suggestions are provided in utmost humility.
Personally I find Don Ricossa to be too charitable and too humble, and while I absolutely understand why and respect his way and his position and his methodology, in good conscience, I can only maintain my position, which is that while all this CAN —and indeed I too very much hope does— improve things, and results in many more proper Catholics returning to the fold in good standing (that is, that of 1958 Sedevacantists) I will always hold the canonical position that once a heretic, even if the repentance is true, a heretic clergyman should spend the rest of his days in perpetual penance with authority over precisely no one.
Nor do I in any way begrudge Don Ricossa or any other valid clergy from holding positions like his. But even a porter was not a priest and yet he controlled the entry to the Church.
And at various times in history it was nobility, duty bound, that helped restore the legitimate Papacy to its throne, and not infrequently by direct and even violent action.
Well, as a Catholic, and even if only a minor noble (the lowest of the ranks: Patrician) it remains my family name’s duty to take as unpleasant and as direct and even offensive a stance as I deem necessary to protect the sanctity of the Church. So, even if Vigano were to truly repent, and even restore the Church, I will never formally recognise him as having any legitimate authority in the Catholic Church. And the same goes for every Novus Orcian “clergy”.
The previous post linked to something I wrote in 2008, but had been aware of from at least 1992 or so.
Here it is, and below I am going to review its predictions against the current state of things, point by point.
Generally
A lot of things have changed in the last 16 years. I went from being a single, once divorced, childless, generally Zen Agnostic hedonist type with strong views on justice and laissez-faire liberalism to a thrice married, father of five children and a hardcore Sedevacantist Catholic with strong views on justice and strong views on the consequences of laissez-faire liberalism.
It can be said that 16 years ago, despite my obvious general cynicism and misanthropy I was still, like all of us before the covid scam/mass murder events of current WWIII a wide-eyed, rose tinted glasses optimist about humans and their nature in general.
1. People will become a lot more tolerant towards each other
This I was waaaay off on. And you can tell that even at my most secularist cynical I was in fact a wide eyed optimist about humans and their ability to do logic instead of their monkey-like tendencies to just fling their own faeces at random based on their emotions and that behaviour exponentially increasing the more their real nature is exposed to the world.
2. Certain behaviours will have to be de-regulated
This I was rather correct on, but more in the sense that all sorts of perversions are now more and more normalised and the only real taboo now is to have any moral standards whatsoever.
I hadn’t specifically thought too much about the clown world tendency to want to pervert and degrade everything because i simply assumed that things like child rape would always be things everyone would agree should result in the sentence, and as a then secularist for the most part, didn’t consider deeply enough what things like sexual permissiveness amongst adults would eventually lead to, because even as degenerate as my own tastes may have been, I never imagined anyone would try to normalise bestiality say, or people in assless gimp suits or worse, being urinated on in public at “pride” events. Once again, my boundless optimism about humanity had me fooled.
3. Identity theft will become harder and more severly punishable
Generally I was correct except if the government is trying to do it to you, although in fairness this hardly needed mentioning, and the reality is that even then it IS more difficult to fool people into buying the lies like Obama being American or the Las Vegas shooting being all by that one lone gunman and so on. They will of course still make you subject to all the punishments, but no one is really fooled by the Biden body doubles and the fake news.
4. Identity theft will become more common and more lucrative
Also kind of generally correct.
5. The faceless corporation will begin to die
In a sense this is true although the faceless corporations are also morphing into faceless government branches of the bureaucracy, but individuals within them are getting easier to expose in general terms even then. See Fauci for example amd Bourla and Klaus Schwab and even the major puppeteers like the Rothschilds running the BIS and so on. It will be a while before small groups of people are more immune to the ravages of such monstrous and monolithic entities, but it is/will continue to happen. In isolated incidents for now but increasingly more likely. One larger example is the shedding of French colonial power from Africa and other colonies.
6. You will not be able to get away from anyone
This was essentially correct.
7. Who you are will become more and more evident to all from this moment forward.
Also true mostly, despite the amount of energy spent in trying to persuade the masses of variously more or less carefully crafted narratives concerning various individuals, anyone who cares enough and has a modicum of intelligence can generally get a good sense of who almost anyone is
So: In conclusion. Why wait?
Wether you like it or not, privacy is mostly dead and it’s not going to get better unless we are all thrown back to the stone age. So you need to adapt to this reality regardless of your feeling about it, which was the same as my original perspective 16 years ago.
This “shocking development” is literally nothing new. This possible use of interferometry has been known for decades and been used since astronomy started to use radio and other wavelengths to produce better resolution images and data collection via interferometry.
The only difference is the extent, reach and consequences for the odd thorn in the side of the establishment. The counter to that is massive community response. What communities, if any, will begin to push back, and in what ways remains to be seen over the next decade or so.
I am confident that my specific choice of the Sedevacantist remnant is the way to go. The Amish or possibly so group of inter-related rednecks in the Appalachians will have their own ideas, and more power to all of them, but don’t be fooled, it is becoming absolutely clear that standing on the sidelines is not an option for anyone anymore. Whether this is Revelation Times or not is immaterial. What is certain is that as Jesus specifically stated, either you are with Him or you are against him.
Regardless of your personal beliefs, it is a sobering intellectual exercise to consider which side you take if in absolute terms Catholicism (Sedevacantism) is actually true and your options are only get with it or get against it. Try it. After all, it’s just a thought experiment right?
Germany has featured more and more incidents involving young people charting, “Foreigners out, Germany for the Germans,” over the beat of the hit electronic song “L’amour toujours” by Gigi D’Agostino. Now, police are being deployed in “operations” to respond to such instances. This time, police arrived at a birthday party in Cochem on the Moselle River, in the German state of Rhineland-Palatinate, only to be surprised when they learned who was singing the song. Once on the scene, officers learned that everyone calling for foreigners to leave Germany were actually foreigners. “What is remarkable in this context is that the women were all non-German nationals and only one woman had any significant knowledge of German,” said the Mayen police department. According to Bild, all the people present only spoke Bulgarian, Romanian and Ukrainian. The police determined that they were singing the song due to its spread on TikTok and other social media platforms. They were allegedly unaware that those singing the song face criminal prosecution, according to police. However, in similar cases, prosecutors have already dropped such cases, saying they did not rise to the level of criminal prosecution. Top politicians in Germany have called for those singing the song to face the “maximum penalty.” Police still opened an investigation into “incitement of hatred.”
I keep having all sorts of people telling how I should listen to this “Catholic” “priest” or “archbishop” that, or “wise man” when in each case they are in the very best of ALL possible cases, a fooled ignorant who hasn’t got the most basic clues of what Catholicism is. And I really do mean at best. Because in most cases they are knowingly and fully and pertinacious heretics and have been for decades.
Strickland, Vigano, Ripperger (or however you spell his name) are ALL, without exception, NOT clergy of the Catholic Church but KNOWING heretics, impostors and frauds.
Emo Jones, Tay-Tay Marshall, Milo, the more recently exposed Mike (Gary) Voris: ALL deceiving grifters that are NOT Catholic, and they know it.
It really is NOT hard to understand:
You do NOT belong to a club that has rules about who can be in the club when you don’t follow those rules.
Why this is hard for some people to grasp is a mystery to me.
You CANNOT be Catholic if you:
Are a Freemason
Are a Satanist (I repeat the point above here)
Are any other religion
Are a communist
Are an atheist
Are an agnostic
Promote, promulgate and/or teach heresy
Publicly defect from the Catholic Faith by doing or being any of the above things (and many others not listed above).
Do not reject in toto, everyone and everything pretending to be Catholic that does not reject Vatican II, its promulgators, architects and heresies.
Similarly, as far as Christianity is concerned, ONLY Catholics are Christians.
Catholics literally put the Bible together. No one else did, no other Christianity existed and in fact Popes and the Holy Mass complete with Transubstantiation, priests not being able to be married (unless they already were before becoming priests, but even then not supposed to continue carnal marital relations), and so on were all present, before, during and after the Bible was put together by them, as it continued to be up until 1958 when the Papacy was taken over by the literal enemies of the Church: Satanists.
And today, anyone who is aware of Vatican II and its heresies, and yet follows the fake, impostor, Novus Orco Church, without rejecting everything and everyone related to Vatican II is NOT a Catholic and hence NOT a Christian.
The ONLY Christians left are:
Sedevacantists, and
Laypeople who have been fooled and are ignorant of the heresies of Vatican II and the usurpation of the Church by its enemies, so consider themselves Catholics in genuine ignorance. These people are in serious error and their souls are in peril, but if they are genuine in their intent AND genuinely unaware if the Vatican II usurpation and heresies, they are in fact considered within the Church. Once they DO become aware of it however, including by reading this post, if they then take zero steps to investigate and learn about Vatican II they are at minimum also guilty of the sin of sloth, which greatly further imperils their souls.
And that’s it. Those are the ONLY people who are actually Christian. Everyone else is either (from worst to least bad but still doomed):
A Satanic impostor and knowing deceiver
A prideful deceiver and grifter more interested in money than truth
A prideful Churchian
A retarded Churchian incapable of doing the most basic logic (the overwhelming majority of Protestants, that is well over 95% fall in this category)
An ignorant atheist (all atheists are in fact ignorant of Christianity)
A deceived schismatic
An ignorant heathen
An ignorant agnostic
And it REALLY, doesn’t matter if you don’t like it, if you disagree, or if you can even understand WHY this is true and based in absolutely flawless logic and reason. Just like it doesn’t matter if you like it, if you disagree or if you can even understand why 2+2=4. Your opinion on the matter is thoroughly irrelevant. The facts will absolutely remain true, regardless of what you or I or anyone else thinks or feels about them.
So, in summary, no, I am not interested in what heretics have to say about Catholicism, other than to occasionally make use of them as an example of a teaching moment for others.
I’m an actual Catholic. I’ll read Catholic works or listen to actual Catholic clergy in regard to matters theological for the purpose of my own learning or better or deepening understanding of anything related to it. And no one else.
There may be just a *tiny* little bit of a clickbait in the title, but I can only take the man at his word and console him in knowing that there is a path forward!
This makes me wish I was a Roman Catholic so I could be officially excommunicated from the synagogue of Satan that presently occupies the Vatican. I absolutely deny the legitimacy of “Pope Francis” and I definitely deny the Second Vatican Council.
I, of course, pretty much stopped reading at “This makes me wish I was a Roman Catholic” and finished with “Why, yes, you can be!”
And on reading the rest of the sentence, I really am not changing much either, because as a Sedevacantist, Bergoglio and the other Satanists hate us with the passion of ten thousand of the lowest pits of Hell, and we do rather enjoy it. So I’m basically just saying, come on in, some of us are quite dark ourselves, and we are all severely excommunicated from the pits of Hell by their imps.
Plus… if Vox converted to Catholicism it would pop so many protestant heads I would laugh for a week. But I honestly would try not to gloat. You know, except in private. Mostly.
That out of the way, now about Vigano.
Well, what else is there to say, I wrote all that needed to be said about Vigano way back when I published Reclaiming the Catholic Church, in chapter VIII. I reproduce a good part of it here for the clarity of those confused souls who think that Catholicism is wishy washy about anything, and especially heresy and heretics.
Now let me address a specific hypothetical example. A rather recent development has been the letters and statements that “Archbishop” Carlo Maria Vigano has released which essentially condemn Vatican II and say it should best be forgotten, wherein a fifth column of impostors has essentially been admitted was responsible and that a parallel false church was created. (July 2020 as of this writing) A lot of supposedly “traditional” Catholics have rejoiced and tried to claim Vigano as the poster boy for “real” Catholicism.
Well… let me burst that little soap bubble with a two-handed sword strike.
Vigano received a doctorate in Canon Law. And since he was ordained in 1968, this means the Canon Law of 1917. In other words, he cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, be assumed to be ignorant of Canon 188 part 4. Furthermore, his assertion that he remained quiet for the next 52 years after his ordination, is inexcusable and even if we assume he was validly ordained (he potentially could have been at least), his more than five decades of silence condemns him. As does his continued promulgation of the Vatican II heretics since he still refers to the impostors as though they had been legitimate Popes. Meaning he too continues to remain a public and notorious heretic and has long ago vacated his office.
But let me not be entirely uncharitable to the man. It is certainly a good thing that he has at least spoken up somewhat, but do not be fooled.
I listed several important issues then stated:
But let me pose a hypothetical. Let us assume that Vigano, shortly after the publication of this book goes on to pronounce all of Vatican II heretical along with the related antipopes, repents his own silence and cowardly dereliction of duty genuinely and publicly, recants any and all associations with anything Vatican II and swears on pain of death to be a model priest from that day forth.
If he did all that, I am almost certain that a great uprising of nominal Catholics, and probably also a good number of actual Catholics would rejoice. Don’t misunderstand me, it would be a good thing, for sure, but I am also quite sure that there would almost immediately be a call to elect him Pope. And from a purely practical point of view, I would probably also agree that this could begin to be a first step towards reclaiming the Church almost in its entirety. But how we personally feel about it is completely irrelevant, because as per Catholic Canon Law, even if Vigano did all that, he would still, as spelt out very clearly in Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio, at best, have to spend the rest of his days in penance hidden away in a monastery; with authority over precisely no-one.
So, even if he were to become a new “Pope” he would be breaking Canon Law in doing so and as such would effectively still be yet another antipope. Assuming all that happened anyway, if —while being yet another fake “Pope”— he did truly reinstate the Catholic Church, then abdicate in favour of another valid Bishop who would take his place afterwards and become the first valid Pope in over six decades, we may say, after the fact only, that he had at least redeemed himself enough to be permitted to finish his days in said monastery and be well-remembered as someone who at least acted correctly even if very late in the day.
Given his timidity, I would hardly expect this hypothetical Pope Vigano to do the right thing though, which would be to:
Immediately excommunicate or at the very least suspend, all Novus Orco “clergy”.
Institute actual Catholic Bishops (the few who remain) to the various and most urgent offices of the Church.
Call for a complete exorcism of the entire Vatican City itself.
Make use of even mere Priests, or if need be laymen to promote as many as necessary into a new set of Cardinals for the eventual continuation of the Papacy
Establish a properly staffed Office of the Inquisition and in due course pronounce sentence on each and every fake “cleric” of the Novus Orco Church starting with the highest ranks and moving their way down to the lower ones.
And that’s just for starters. Such action would also require a removal of all lay people from the Vatican and a re-staffing of it with actual Catholics, particularly with regard to matters of security.
Eventually, a commission for investigation of the Vatican Bank would have to be set up and protected from the inevitable attacks that would come from the deep state of multiple countries deeply involved with all sorts of filth, starting with the USA but probably linking almost every corrupt politician on Earth.
If he did all that, while I would be willing to admit that yes, he would then probably be a valid and repentant Catholic, he still would not be a valid Pope, nor could he ever again take up acting as even just a simple Priest in an out of the way parish. The law is clear. He would have to be sequestered away for the rest of his days in penance.
But this is all really high fantasy anyway and I am quite sure none of it would happen, because if it even started to it would not surprise me if the Vatican was bombed from orbit by a “stray” American satellite, tactical nuke, redirected asteroid or what have you. Our hypothetical “Pope” Vigano would definitely be in a difficult position, but those would be the actions a brand new and real Pope should take or —as would be his case— even an invalid one but who is genuinely trying to reinstate the Catholic Church.
Impossible though these points may be to carry out all at once, any potentially new Pope (assuming he was actually elected by the remaining Catholic Bishops and Priests who remain, not the Novus Orco impostors) who did not at least move in that general direction would be very suspect in the extreme. Certainly, the suspension of all fake clerics and replacing as many as possible with actual Catholic Clergy would have to be the first priority, and the installation of a proper Inquisition the second one.
As it is though, Vigano has not even called out the public defectors from the Faith for what they are. He is still referring to Roncalli, Montini, Wojtyła, Ratzinger and the others as “Popes”. In short, we are still a very long way away from Vigano being anything other than perhaps a temporary distraction. Nevertheless, I will continue to pray for the man. As a long-time sinner myself before I saw the truth, I should not begrudge a possible late bloomer, even if he will never be anything more than a Priest with no authority over anyone, in the best of cases. Which is not to say that he could not still be a force for good, if he ever finds the courage to act as a proper Catholic.
That all said, we know God simply loves to use broken and worn out human wreckage to renew His Church in the most unexpected ways. If He saved me through His Grace, I believe indeed almost anyone at all can be saved. Though I might personally dislike the idea, I know my thoughts on the matter are completely irrelevant. God has proven many times that He will choose whoever He wants to renew his Church, and if Carlo Maria Vigano is that man, then more power to him. And if not, no matter, because:
We are not given to a Spirit of Fear!
Now, as you can see, if you read through all that, technically speaking, and as a layman, we cannot accept Vigano at face value, and even if he did return the Church to real Catholicism, Canon Law is clear on the issue. That said, and as I have already stated officially four years ago, God does act in mysterious ways, but unlike the “Orthodox” who would leave such things to “mystical unknowns” without pronouncing themselves one way or the other, or worse, the average Protestant, who frankly can’t be relied upon to understand how a simple knot in a rope is made or unmade, never mind follow basic logic, canon law, or much of anything else requiring strict reasoning and logic, Catholics are perfectly clear on the matter:
Vigano should have, and officially can have, authority over no one even if he IS a truly repentant and perhaps even a validly ordained Catholic Bishop. And even if he were made Pope and restored the Church to pre 1958 truth and reality, he would still count as an antipope.
Which might not, necessarily, prevent him from becoming a Saint (if he fulfilled the other requirements). If that sounds convoluted and counter-intuitive, it is clear you’re a binary thinker probably steeped in Protestantism. Catholics understand that humans are all flawed and that God’s mercy is infinite, but so is his justice. Simply because you truly atone of a sin, does not mean you avoid punishment for it. It just means you can, in due course, be forgiven for it. And for a heretic clergyman, that forgiveness from us laymen, at least in terms of acknowledging all the good deeds he may have done, it does not obviate the punishment, which in this case is that he should have authority over no one.
As I wrote back in 2020, it would not surprise me unduly if Vigano did become “Pope”. It certainly would be a great thing, and his excommunication is bound to increase the ranks of the Sedevacantists tenfold rather quickly. And if Vigano openly declares he is now a 1958 Sedevacantist, it will certainly boost the ranks and I am sure various institutions of sedevacantists will welcome him with open arms.
I for one will continue to simply observe and neither give the man praise nor unduly excoriate him, but I will not diverge one atom from Canon Law.
We know what happens when we do that. We get The Roncalli and the Begoglios and even, yes, the cowardly, too silent for too long Viganos.
Catholics are not given to timidity in the face of heretics. So let us correct those errors of our grandfathers and fathers, and return to the conviction, honour and fortitude of the Bohemonds, Tancredis, Valettes, and their kind from the time of the crusades and before and beyond. But let us never gain stray into the timidity of the Rebellion of perverted fake monks and English Kings, or the demonic inspirations of the French Freemasons and their kind.
The Confusions of Australians
Adam gets it wrong once again. I like Adam, I consider him a friend and he certainly has behaved like one. However, one must remember, he is still an Australian, and as such from faulty genetic stock. Particularly when it comes to things like, well, you know… following the law!
On his thoughts on Vigano he goes on to say that he does not dismiss the man, despite Vigano’s cowardly silence on Vatican II and his still not having specifically called out all the fake Popes since 1958 as fake Popes for over 50 years, and he says this is because:
If I were to do that then I should also dismiss the apostle Paul, who actively persecuted Christians until his meeting with Christ on the road to Damascus. And if Paul then many others also over the vast pages of human history.
No Adam. No, no, no, no!
Paul was NOT a Catholic when he was persecuting Christians. He was a Jew. You can call him a heathen if you prefer, even a Pagan. But the whole point is he was NOT a Catholic, nor pretending to be one.
So, when he repented and became one, whatever sins he had, including presumably multiple counts of murder, the one thing he could not be accused of is heresy.
The difference is Vigano absolutely is a heretic. And has been and acted like one in absolutely full knowledge of the fact.
While this does not forbid him from genuine repentance, and thus, eventual entry into heaven, it absolutely does prevent him from ever again having any legitimate clerical authority over absolutely anyone. And that, is not only logical, but divine law as far as the Church is concerned.
Might God still use him to in some way partially, or even totally to (eventually) reclaim the Catholic Church back from the pedophile infested, homosexual orgy indulging impostors currently squatting in the Vatican? Sure. God certainly loves to use broken tools.
But does it change the fact that Vigano, in the very best of cases, by dogmatic rule of Canon Law can only aspire to a lifetime of penance with authority over no one? No. It does not.
And this sort of “charitable” wishy-washy, mealy-mouthed, trying to see the best in people nonsense is how a freemasonic scum like Roncalli and a demonic infested Montini almost succeeded in destroying the Catholic Church, and certainly dealt it one of the worst blows of its 2000 year history.
So, no. Correct yourself friend.
Sure, the Vigano situation can be used to the advantage of the Church and it should be, but let us not let heretics avoid their just punishments.
Of course, I don’t begrudge Adam his sentiments or his prayers, which are all entirely appropriate, but let us not confuse what a heretic is nor what an ex-heretic may do or not do.
Lastly, it is also a logical flaw to expect that the only way the Church can heal is by the actions of the perverts, cowards and satanists within its buildings currently pretending to be Catholic. One might as well say the Satanic pedophiles in charge of the deep state are the only hope we have for eventually getting a good government.
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By G | 25 June 2024 | Posted in Catholicism, Sedevacantism, Social Commentary