This post will be fairly long and will cover the basics of wanting to move to Italy to join a growing community of real Catholics intent on reclaiming the Church from the claws of the impostors and Satanists that currently pretend to impersonate Priests, Bishops and Popes of Catholicism.
As many of you know, I was named The Kurgan by a group of people that read Vox Popoli.
As even more of you know, after some 45 years as a wild heathen, I was baptised on Ascension day 2017 after several years of intense research into the One True, Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church, which, as anyone who knows me at all will tell you, has NOTHING to do with the Church of Moloch run by the Vicar of Pedophiles on Earth Bergoglio.
My position is commonly referred to as Sedevacantist although I prefer the term Sedeprivationist since it is technically more correct. If you are interested in the topic you may want to read my short book BELIEVE! on the subject (about 2 hours to read and it has many references for further study) or if you are more serious and want all the gory details, you may want to read Reclaiming the Catholic Church, which is:
530 Pages
Lists at least some of the direct heresies present in 15 of the 16 Vatican 2 documents
Lists and counters every single objection ever made against Sedeprivationism
Lists and explains the precise Modus Operandi of the deceivers, impostors, and bad faith actors who try to disparage or pretend Sedeprivationism is not valid. It turns out there are just 11 things they do, usually only 2 or 3 of them at a time.
Gives a brief but rather complete history of how and by whom the Church was infiltrated, going back all the way to the secret instruction of the Alta Vendita, translating documents into English that have not previously been done to my knowledge.
Explains the reason why the Canon Law of 1917 is the impregnable fortress of Catholicism that it is, being the most vetted document in the history of mankind.
Explains the way forward for Catholics as well as the process that unaware Novus Orco “Catholics” can take to educate themselves honestly about their supposed religion.
Explains why the Novus Orco Mass and their related Clerics are in fact all heretics and not valid Catholics, never mind clerics.
So that’s the introduction to the belief system. Now a little more context. Italy is the home of one of the best organised and largest Sedeprivationist organisations on the Planet, and you can find out more about them here.
You will find mass centres and dates they serve them wherever they operate at their site along with excellent articles and a bookshop of various publications, most of them in Italian.
As I have been asked a number of times about what it takes to move to Italy and would it be possible to build a proper Catholic community that in essence replicates to some extent or other the actions of the Monks who in the 4th and 5th Century retreated from the world and build monasteries and then farmed them and worked the land to produce a surfeit of goods and value that ultimately ended up not only invigorating and growing Catholicism, but civilising the world. Of course, history does not repeat and we are not monks. But there are resonances and one thing we can learn from the past is that once the monasteries became fruitful and wealthy they were raided by Vikings.
So… the Kurganate will aim to have walls and crusaders manning them even as the fields are being worked and made fruitful.
Practicalities in General Terms of Moving to Italy
There are several factors to consider.
Your willingness to travel by air and thus be tested fro the scamdemic at both departure and arrival.
The ability to travel without having been injected with the genetically modifying deathtrap they call a “vaccine”.
Moving all your stuff or buying new, etc etc.
On each of those things you will have to find your own way. Suffice it to say that the Kurganate will not be accepting non-vaccine injected shedders. If you think this is all tin-foil hat stuff, I only have one thing to say to you, since you are clearly not a thinking human being: This is not the place for you. Go elsewhere.
The practical aspects are relatively simple:
You need approximately about 10,000 Euros per adult person to move to Italy successfully and easily if you are not an Italian Citizen and don’t already have visa and all that stuff done through your employer.
As a freelancer or self-employed person you need about 6,000 Euro to show you are not going to be a burden on the state.
If you are a single man or a young couple you can probably rent an ok place for the remaining 3 to 4k of the 10k So this assumes you have accommodation sorted for a year and you will also have the required 6k to show you are not a welfare thief.
You need to get an Italian fiscal code and make an appointment with an Italian embassy near you for a visa. There are different types of Visa and you will need to select the one that best suits for you.
If you are not an EU citizen you will need to apply for the visa while outside of the country.
Of course, Italian bureaucracy is a nightmare and despite the simple steps above, it may require additional bits of info, for example, you are supposed to register with eh local police when you arrive and you should do it sharpish (within 2 weeks) and the place you are staying in, if owned by someone else has to state you are there within 24 hours. Mostly these rules if not completely followed there will be a way to make good, but it’s best to do the right thing from the start.
Fiscal codes can be applied for online and received relatively problem free, but can take a long time; or not at all. In typical Italian fashion it can take from a few days to 6 weeks. Here is a sample site for Americans but find the one relative to your country.
General points about Italy
The food is good, relatively cheap and GMO free
If you move to a rural area it’s easy enough to grow your own food, but be aware that buying property in Italy is a lengthy process that requires paying the estate agent, a notary public and taxes on the purchase of the house and lands (but there are no ongoing property taxes thereafter)
Zoning in Italy is brutal. If you bought a house don’t expect to be able to modify it easily or extend it easily or maybe even at all. Furthermore, agricultural land cannot have buildings erected on it and even if you buy a giant piece of land with farmland and a house on it you may not be able to build anything else on it. There are usually again, ways around things, but they are long, painful, complicated and usually expensive. It also depends who you know and which part of Italy you buy in. The further North you are the more likely laws are enforced. The further South you are the more likely you need to pay a protection fee to the local mafia. Maybe.
The people are friendly and generally good fun although the scamdemic has created a high number of Karens.
Wearing masks in public is throughout the country BUT the highest law of the land has also determined that it is not a crime to not wear one. That said, peer pressure is pretty high in Italy… except that there are people who always resist too, so it’s a bit a write your own adventure book in that sense.
Gun laws are relatively reasonable in Italy but I am not sure how they apply to non-citizens.
The Kurganate
The Kurganate will be in one of the Northern Regions of Italy, it will be composed exclusively of Sedeprivationists/Sedevacantists who are actual Catholics and NOT LARPING at it. I have seen groups form online and then translate into meatspace too of “Good Christian Men” from various Protestant traditions and Eastern “Orthodox” and Norco “Catholics” and invariably they become a kind of social club. The Kurganate is not a social club. It is an earnest reality of Catholics taking their religion, land and laws back. If you need an analogy for it think of it as a real life Crusader Kings. Except it’s not a game. It’s real.
The Catholics I consider part of it are in every case people who will go out of their way to make this happen. They give each other money. Without expecting it back. They work all hours of the day and sometimes night to help each other out. They ALL reject the fake Novus Orco Church, Vatican II and all their fake clergy and they will only take proper Catholic Mass that is non una-cum (meaning the fake Pope is not in any way mentioned at the Mass). There is no amount of LARPING that will get a couple with 6 young kids to go to Mass every Sunday without fail. There are no fakers and it will become apparent very quickly if you are faking it, or wanting to join because it sounds like a good idea, or you want some new friends, or you think it might be good for security down the line but you don’t really believe all that Catholic stuff. My advice to such people is to go elsewhere. Form your own community. You will not fit in the Kurganate, and we have no hesitation in making sure those who are pretend Catholics, who do not reject Vatican II and all its poison fruit in toto are excluded from everything that we do. We’d sooner have a nice enough Agnostic or Buddhist live near us than a fake Catholic. We purge those who pretend at Catholicism harder for they have no excuse for their errors once they come into contact with the information. That said, it is a matter of Catholic dogma that conversion by force or coercion is anathema, so no one will ever be pressured to convert. And of course, if you don’t believe like us, don’t share the same religion and ways of thinking as us (reason and logic being a mainstay of Catholicism) then there is little reason why you should want to hang around with us too.
No doubt, because I have called it the Kurganate, many will think it’s a personality cult or some kind of sect. Let them think what they want. the reality is that every single man and woman that is part of our community understands the concept of hierarchy, in heaven as it is on Earth. And those who are best suited for a role lead in that role. Aside from that, each man is his own person and makes his own choices. I would no more presume to teach a farmer or a schoolteacher anything about their chosen profession, and in similar fashion, I do not expect the farmer or the schoolteacher to tell me how to go about creating a functioning community that will continue to grow in time and space. But if someone feels they are better at the task, then let them create their own Catholic community, Barony, Kingdom, Citadel, or whatever name you want to give it. If theirs expands faster and better than mine and it too is Catholic, then well met; you might even gain our little community’s allegiance.
Parting points
I am not a visa service. You have a computer and the internet at your fingertips. Figure out all the details yourself, don’t ask me. I’m busy, and more importantly, I don’t answer questions you can answer yourself simply by doing the work you are asking me to do for you. Do it yourself.
But, but, but… I have this brilliant reason why Sedeprivationism is wrong/heretic/mistaken/schismatic/protestant/whatever and here it is, let me tell you all about it in my brilliant email… No. No you do not. Read my book of 530 pages and then write one yourself refuting every point I make in it if you can. Go on. I’ll wait. Otherwise, shut up. You are ignorant, have come up with nothing new and your nonsense will be summarily ignored or made a spectacular example of in public if I have the time and inclination.
Where do I sign up to come live in your house/garden/next door. Nowhere. If you want to own some land or a house, buy your own. If you are genuinely Catholic and genuinely interested in becoming part of our community it will not happen overnight. We need to know who you are and how you think and how you observe Mass and who your priest is and so on.
Why… you sound so unfriendly! You won’t get many people wanting to join you that way! This is what you should do… No. Go away. No one cares what you think and least of all me. Go create your own community, as I said. The Kurganate is not a soft place of hugging lies and virtue signalling. It is a hard place of Truth, Reality, Courage, Justice, Fortitude, Honour and a Beauty that lazy fakers cannot even imagine, much less comprehend. Because it is above all CATHOLIC. 1095 Catholic. Not Novus Orco Pedolitic.
Your Moving to Italy and the Kurganate
Omnia Vincit Amor
Introduction
This post will be fairly long and will cover the basics of wanting to move to Italy to join a growing community of real Catholics intent on reclaiming the Church from the claws of the impostors and Satanists that currently pretend to impersonate Priests, Bishops and Popes of Catholicism.
As many of you know, I was named The Kurgan by a group of people that read Vox Popoli.
As even more of you know, after some 45 years as a wild heathen, I was baptised on Ascension day 2017 after several years of intense research into the One True, Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church, which, as anyone who knows me at all will tell you, has NOTHING to do with the Church of Moloch run by the Vicar of Pedophiles on Earth Bergoglio.
My position is commonly referred to as Sedevacantist although I prefer the term Sedeprivationist since it is technically more correct. If you are interested in the topic you may want to read my short book BELIEVE! on the subject (about 2 hours to read and it has many references for further study) or if you are more serious and want all the gory details, you may want to read Reclaiming the Catholic Church, which is:
So that’s the introduction to the belief system. Now a little more context. Italy is the home of one of the best organised and largest Sedeprivationist organisations on the Planet, and you can find out more about them here.
You will find mass centres and dates they serve them wherever they operate at their site along with excellent articles and a bookshop of various publications, most of them in Italian.
As I have been asked a number of times about what it takes to move to Italy and would it be possible to build a proper Catholic community that in essence replicates to some extent or other the actions of the Monks who in the 4th and 5th Century retreated from the world and build monasteries and then farmed them and worked the land to produce a surfeit of goods and value that ultimately ended up not only invigorating and growing Catholicism, but civilising the world. Of course, history does not repeat and we are not monks. But there are resonances and one thing we can learn from the past is that once the monasteries became fruitful and wealthy they were raided by Vikings.
So… the Kurganate will aim to have walls and crusaders manning them even as the fields are being worked and made fruitful.
Practicalities in General Terms of Moving to Italy
There are several factors to consider.
On each of those things you will have to find your own way. Suffice it to say that the Kurganate will not be accepting non-vaccine injected shedders. If you think this is all tin-foil hat stuff, I only have one thing to say to you, since you are clearly not a thinking human being: This is not the place for you. Go elsewhere.
The practical aspects are relatively simple:
Of course, Italian bureaucracy is a nightmare and despite the simple steps above, it may require additional bits of info, for example, you are supposed to register with eh local police when you arrive and you should do it sharpish (within 2 weeks) and the place you are staying in, if owned by someone else has to state you are there within 24 hours. Mostly these rules if not completely followed there will be a way to make good, but it’s best to do the right thing from the start.
Fiscal codes can be applied for online and received relatively problem free, but can take a long time; or not at all. In typical Italian fashion it can take from a few days to 6 weeks. Here is a sample site for Americans but find the one relative to your country.
General points about Italy
The Kurganate
The Kurganate will be in one of the Northern Regions of Italy, it will be composed exclusively of Sedeprivationists/Sedevacantists who are actual Catholics and NOT LARPING at it. I have seen groups form online and then translate into meatspace too of “Good Christian Men” from various Protestant traditions and Eastern “Orthodox” and Norco “Catholics” and invariably they become a kind of social club. The Kurganate is not a social club. It is an earnest reality of Catholics taking their religion, land and laws back. If you need an analogy for it think of it as a real life Crusader Kings. Except it’s not a game. It’s real.
The Catholics I consider part of it are in every case people who will go out of their way to make this happen. They give each other money. Without expecting it back. They work all hours of the day and sometimes night to help each other out. They ALL reject the fake Novus Orco Church, Vatican II and all their fake clergy and they will only take proper Catholic Mass that is non una-cum (meaning the fake Pope is not in any way mentioned at the Mass). There is no amount of LARPING that will get a couple with 6 young kids to go to Mass every Sunday without fail. There are no fakers and it will become apparent very quickly if you are faking it, or wanting to join because it sounds like a good idea, or you want some new friends, or you think it might be good for security down the line but you don’t really believe all that Catholic stuff. My advice to such people is to go elsewhere. Form your own community. You will not fit in the Kurganate, and we have no hesitation in making sure those who are pretend Catholics, who do not reject Vatican II and all its poison fruit in toto are excluded from everything that we do. We’d sooner have a nice enough Agnostic or Buddhist live near us than a fake Catholic. We purge those who pretend at Catholicism harder for they have no excuse for their errors once they come into contact with the information. That said, it is a matter of Catholic dogma that conversion by force or coercion is anathema, so no one will ever be pressured to convert. And of course, if you don’t believe like us, don’t share the same religion and ways of thinking as us (reason and logic being a mainstay of Catholicism) then there is little reason why you should want to hang around with us too.
No doubt, because I have called it the Kurganate, many will think it’s a personality cult or some kind of sect. Let them think what they want. the reality is that every single man and woman that is part of our community understands the concept of hierarchy, in heaven as it is on Earth. And those who are best suited for a role lead in that role. Aside from that, each man is his own person and makes his own choices. I would no more presume to teach a farmer or a schoolteacher anything about their chosen profession, and in similar fashion, I do not expect the farmer or the schoolteacher to tell me how to go about creating a functioning community that will continue to grow in time and space. But if someone feels they are better at the task, then let them create their own Catholic community, Barony, Kingdom, Citadel, or whatever name you want to give it. If theirs expands faster and better than mine and it too is Catholic, then well met; you might even gain our little community’s allegiance.
Parting points
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By G | 6 May 2021 | Posted in Catholicism, Christianity, News, Sedeprivationism, Social Commentary, Travel